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Next wave of bullpups
Topic Started: Sunday Apr 29 2018, 08:28 PM (726 Views)
jimbouk
Looking at the latest from the shot show and reports of new arrivals from many manufacturers and looks like lots of improvements to existing models.

Anyone any ideas on what’s going to be the next big thing? Liking the look of the latest Vulcan. Is the edgun r5m coming here? Then there’s the Artemis and also the Kozak.

I’m going to have to get to a shooting show and have a play....what do you guys think?
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i like the new edguns, I have an r5m and its shorter cousin the lelya 2.0 on their way, looking forward to trying the new lelya, having had the 1st single shot model also with its forward cocking position and magazine loading, it could be the replacement for the colibri I once had, atb tim. No Avatar
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Sunday Apr 29 2018, 09:50 PM
i like the new edguns, I have an r5m and its shorter cousin the lelya 2.0 on their way, looking forward to trying the new lelya, having had the 1st single shot model also with its forward cocking position and magazine loading, it could be the replacement for the colibri I once had, atb tim.
Nice one, where have you ordered them from?
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hi mate, they are coming from Ari at dase.fi , I have bought edguns and atamans from him in the past, great guy to deal with, atb tim. No Avatar
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Monday Apr 30 2018, 06:25 AM
hi mate, they are coming from Ari at dase.fi , I have bought edguns and atamans from him in the past, great guy to deal with, atb tim.
Cheers, have emailed them,
let’s see what the delivery time is like....
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if its in stock, usually 5 days, if not you will have have to wait for the next shipment which could be up to 12 weeks dependendant on edgun or ataman having the stock, atb tim. No Avatar
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the new Edgun look ace as doe the Ataman i posted a video of
the kalibregun is a bit of a let down square shroud and built in bipod ???????????
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Monday Apr 30 2018, 07:15 AM
badgerginger
Monday Apr 30 2018, 06:25 AM
hi mate, they are coming from Ari at dase.fi , I have bought edguns and atamans from him in the past, great guy to deal with, atb tim.
Cheers, have emailed them,
let’s see what the delivery time is like....
Ari is sound to deal with

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Verry nice guy indeed
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Cheers lads, orders in, the wait is on 👍 No Avatar
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I.Vanders
Tuesday May 1 2018, 11:11 AM
Verry nice guy indeed
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Posted Image my new pups arrived today, only posted on Monday, not bad- 4 days from finland, thanks for the great service Ari. No Avatar
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Got to be happy with that, good service👍 Looking forward to a review Tim enjoy them mate :) No Avatar
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Thursday May 3 2018, 08:44 PM
Posted Image my new pups arrived today, only posted on Monday, not bad- 4 days from finland, thanks for the great service Ari.
Cant decide which one i want i will just get both :O ;)
i am envious :blink:
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Thursday May 3 2018, 08:44 PM
Posted Image my new pups arrived today, only posted on Monday, not bad- 4 days from finland, thanks for the great service Ari.
hi, great looking guns - i be interesed what are your initial impressions so far? how is that side-cocking - how does it compare with the colibri, vulcan, fx side levers?
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i managed to get some range time in with both guns, I fitted a compact 3-12 x32 connect onto the lelya and it suits it nicely, I put a ffp sidewinder on the matador along with my tier one bipod, a bit oversize but ok shooting off the bench. I initially zeroed the lelya at 25 yds in my garden to get a feel for it and it produced a ragged one hole group, once at the range I tried the knockdown targets and spinners at 25 m and it connected with the 10mm spinners everytime. Then using holdover points, I was able to take out targets of 25 to 40mm easily at up to 60m range. The matador I zeroed at 50m range and this produced a sub 1inch group out of the box, so performance wise they are very similar and once bedded in I expect better groups. Cocking is very good with either hand, the bolt handle is a sort of shuttle by that I mean it pivots back when cocking and forwards when closing the bolt. Bolt action runs on bearings which can be noisey when cocked fast but very quiet when done deliberately slowly feeling the way. Both guns are louder than expected considering the size of the silencer with a metallic ding on firing, but the silencer does back vent so the sound is possibly much quieter down range. All in all they are very well made, in a similar finish to the r3m. One thing that I did notice, not sure if it is unique to mine, is that my lelya has matador on the block! looking forwards to the .177 calibre versions as that is my preferred calibre, so one will go to be replaced by the smaller bore version. Posted Image Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image No Avatar
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really liking your lelya - the connect scope suits it really well! No Avatar
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Sunday May 13 2018, 03:09 PM
i managed to get some range time in with both guns, I fitted a compact 3-12 x32 connect onto the lelya and it suits it nicely, I put a ffp sidewinder on the matador along with my tier one bipod, a bit oversize but ok shooting off the bench. I initially zeroed the lelya at 25 yds in my garden to get a feel for it and it produced a ragged one hole group, once at the range I tried the knockdown targets and spinners at 25 m and it connected with the 10mm spinners everytime. Then using holdover points, I was able to take out targets of 25 to 40mm easily at up to 60m range. The matador I zeroed at 50m range and this produced a sub 1inch group out of the box, so performance wise they are very similar and once bedded in I expect better groups. Cocking is very good with either hand, the bolt handle is a sort of shuttle by that I mean it pivots back when cocking and forwards when closing the bolt. Bolt action runs on bearings which can be noisey when cocked fast but very quiet when done deliberately slowly feeling the way. Both guns are louder than expected considering the size of the silencer with a metallic ding on firing, but the silencer does back vent so the sound is possibly much quieter down range. All in all they are very well made, in a similar finish to the r3m. One thing that I did notice, not sure if it is unique to mine, is that my lelya has matador on the block! looking forwards to the .177 calibre versions as that is my preferred calibre, so one will go to be replaced by the smaller bore version. Posted Image Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image


Mine has Matador printed on it also....
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nice one, mind you the action is the same on both guns with the difference being barrel/cylinder length and the stock shape. unlike the previous versions which were completely different actions. How are you finding yours? one thing I have found is the guns prefer the plastic mags supplied, over the original alloy ones, have you tried any? enjoy it, atb tim. No Avatar
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Is there any difference in accuracy between the two ?
may hae to push the boat out !!!
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Sunday May 13 2018, 11:19 PM
nice one, mind you the action is the same on both guns with the difference being barrel/cylinder length and the stock shape. unlike the previous versions which were completely different actions. How are you finding yours? one thing I have found is the guns prefer the plastic mags supplied, over the original alloy ones, have you tried any? enjoy it, atb tim.
I'm loving mine. Though I am a little bit disappointed in how loud the cocking action is, even when done slow, and the noise when fired especially from the ear close to the action... I don't just think it is the rear-venting holes from the moderator I think it is the action.
Out of the box she was putting pellet on pellet at 30 yards easy... all day long. Beautiful Edgun as always... Though I'm not really liking the new ";electronic gauge"; but I will carry on and try and get used to it.

All in all only had about 300 pellets through it over the weekend... I'll see what she is like out and about at the farm.
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Now they do look compact!! I'm assuming edgun are pricey though... Don't actually know much about them. No Avatar

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Tuesday May 15 2018, 05:47 PM
Now they do look compact!! I'm assuming edgun are pricey though... Don't actually know much about them.
Around £1200 /1300 not mad money but not cheap
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That's bloody expensive! The price of airguns is out of control if you ask me! No Avatar

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Wednesday May 16 2018, 06:52 AM
That's bloody expensive! The price of airguns is out of control if you ask me!
Relative i think i bought my DS air ranger 5 years ago and so far its cost me a pack of O rings for the enjoyment iv had it owes me nowt . With a small company like Edgun i figure its about right with RD materials and labour
but hey i got no wife and kids so i got a few spare pennies ;)
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I really like edgun and kalibrgun and the way they do things. Very solid engineering, bit utilitarian in parts especially the woodwork. Remind me of the rapids in a way. My two favourite current brands.
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nice mini carbine, i had one, I think they are more comfortable than the cricket bullpup, thanks to having the semi bullpup stock with the adjustable cheekpiece. I have to agree with you on the build quality of the edgun and kalibrguns and would add the Vulcan to that list as well. No Avatar
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