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Colibri review
Topic Started: Tuesday Jun 16 2015, 04:22 PM (7,722 Views)
Snu
OK, this is "MY" review of "MY" Colibri.



First I have to thank Ivo, top bloke, honest as the day is long and in no way involved in any issues that I have had.



So the gun arrived and it had a leak, no problem, I can fix that !!!



So I stripped the gun down and put it on the gun rest, investigated the leak and found that it was leaking air down the barrel.......seal on the low pressure side or valve stem not sealing, time to strip the reg and see what was going on.



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You will see from this picture that the reg adjuster is still in on piece (the alloy piece between the other alloy piece and the brass piece)



Nothing obvious so I greased it back up and put it back together.....still leaking...bugger.



Increase the reg pressure to help it seal I thought.........big mistake, I know Ernest say's you can adjuster the reg whilst under pressure.......but for those who try....I have spares, mine was adjusted whilst the air tube was empty, this was the result.



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Off to my good friend Chris to make me a new one.



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When I looked at the broken alloy one, I found a bit of a flaw.....alloy thread on alloy thread does not work, and with a 0.7mm wall on the threads it was going to end in tears



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So, with the new part ready to go in I thought it was the best time to investigate the leak, I stripped the reg apart and found that the oring on the low preasure side was faulty, not what you would expect from a new gun.......going to have to strip it completely at some stage and fit new, better quality orings at some stage, just not yet.



Put it all back together and tested for leaks.......sorted



I had to cut the large spring back so I could get it to run at sub 12flb with some small adjustments from that stupid horrible plastic adjuster in the back of the block, will have to get some of those made in alloy at some stage.



Whilst test firing I noticed it was not indexing properly.......here we go again, stripped it down and put it back on the bench.



I opened up the side cover and went through some dry firing cycles (tank drained at this point) and noticed that the indexing lever was not engaging as it should.



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So I removed the cocking arm (not shown in the picture above, I was a little bit eager) and then removed the indexing arm, inside I found a small piece of swarf which was catching in the mechanism on the upper right side


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Also the pin that throws the indexing arm was not far enough forward to index the mag properly, this can be adjusted by removing the allen key from the centre of the brass circle under the indexing arm and turning the brass cam anti clockwise to move the pin towards the indexing lever.



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I took the indexing lever off as it looked quite rough and polished the underside as this lever sits on a magnet and when cocked it will not engage again until fired as the magnet holds it away from the mag, once you fire the gun the hammer hits the plate underneath and moves the indexing lever forward ready to index the mag.



There was also a small issue with the mag not rotating and locking into place when indexed causing it to jam every once in a while, so I stripped the mag down and found 2 small ball bearings and a spring going through the centre of the mag, the issue was the spring was not long enough to force the 2 ball bearings into their respective slots in the inner part of the mag.



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All I did to resolve this was to stretch the spring a little and put it back together, dont over stretch it as it will be bloody hard to cock and index the next pellet.



So at this point I thought great I'll put it all back together and go try this thing out.



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I know that so far this is not the review everybody was waiting for as I haven't got that far myself, I just thought you might like to see what I've been doing the last couple of weeks whilst you've been waiting.



I'm going to try and get out this afternoon so I will be able to finish this off later once I've chucked a tin of pellets through it.



Cheers



Clive
Edited by Snu, Tuesday Jun 16 2015, 05:30 PM.
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Adolf
Great review Clive (though I can`t see your pics)

Ive fancied a colibri for a while but holding off with all the problems people have posted. Your review means I will just wait some more and see if kalibr get their act together at some point.
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Nightmare.... If that was me, I'd be well fucked mate..

Not what you need from a brand new gun..!!
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It all went "pete Tong" on the copy and paste bit, I'll have to add the photo's when I get home, to busy in work at the moment.
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All done

Something to think about before you say "fcuk that for a game of soldiers", this was bought from outside the UK and "HAS NOT" gone through CGR........I'm sure Sam's will be perfect.
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Very interesting thanks for posting, and I hope it finally works for you. Makes a non-PCP owner wonder if there are any guns out there that actually work without leaking or mag problems etc. No Avatar

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Dave G
Think I've orderd a uk spec model 16 joules just waiting on confirmation seller has given or promised 24 month warrant which I think they honestly will stand by from what I've read just waiting to see how long it will take but usually 3 days (Vulcan s ) every thing looks great price too colibri £850 shipped at uk specs cheers for review Clive I no who to pm if I come stuck atvb Dave
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I've any one wants the supplier pm me ile be keeping this one close to my chest tho as every other order starts to get percentage drops ie first order 2% second 4% all way up to 10% but trusted members can pm me for it no probs as long as it don't go to bbs ect like other to be moaned at off terry doe ect as as happened with schietsport ect
Edited by Dave G, Tuesday Jun 16 2015, 06:14 PM.
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tbh crazy money for a second rate product ..think about it ,if you paid the same money for a rapid or daystate would you accept it ?? i think we have gone a little daft for these bullpups fad/craze . im rapidly lol get it rapidly ,going off them ha ha
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Like the look of the Colibri but I've just seen a RAW on AGF in full left hand version, cocking lever on the left and all the lot. I really like that too lol.
I'd have to sell my rapid to buy one but I don't really want to do that either .............I'll wait to handle one of these colibri's to see what's what first
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But what a sexy rifle, when I saw it I tought, yep that's my next rifle, when it came I thought expensive but worth it, it makes the perfect ratter and is soo easy as a walk around gun when your out and about.
Edited by Snu, Tuesday Jun 16 2015, 09:21 PM.
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That's first production what was run have a read of daystates pulsar there's more probs with that for sure
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My tought exactly,

A, to get an unmalested Rapid is nigh on impossible

B, anti tamper was a lot of hog wash as I know of 3 HW100's that came from Blackpool !! and got sent back only to come back over the uk 12flb, I sorted them by removing anti tamper and they are still using them for FT/HFT (tin rabbit brigade)

C, If a man built it in a hurry, I can fix it at my leisure

D, And most important of all, it gets me out of the house went that pile of sh1t Eastenders is on.

P.S I think I might have just fixed the indexing issue.......keep you all posted. ;)
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Well done Snu, looks like you've been a busy boy...
You've certainly done a better job of explaining the indexing system that I did and pictures are a huge bonus!

Do you have a reg tester at all?
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Hi Sam, I do have a reg tester for the Colibri, took me a minute or two to work it out but a large glass of red and a quite moment in the garage got it sorted ;)
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Well my colibri is orderd supplier says can send straight back if not happy 24 month warranty too not bad price either around £850 posted may have to getb a upgraded reg adjuster off u Clive although I've aked for a non adjustible one what's set at 16 joule we will see . Supplier says recent modes are hell of a lot better and looking on you tube ect snierqty has his had his batch deliverd and looks real happy with jo let rations needed will keep u posted
Edited by Dave G, Sunday Jun 21 2015, 12:25 PM.
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Looking forward to your review Dave :)
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Yeah will put it through its paces Nick think it will need tweaking a little but will see
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I've got a spare one in the garage Dave if you need it, hopefully the indexing issue has been sorted now and you get a trouble free one.
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Cheers clive I've watched em for what seems years now even befor we moved forums from original so hoping they've sorted issues sniperquerty looks impressed and all to looking strange in shades in the desert has been right about vulcans and crickets ect Just wish he'd speak English
Edited by Dave G, Sunday Jun 21 2015, 01:13 PM.
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He needs a translator, would make his video's easier to watch and we might even get a few tips as well.
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This is very true he's a cackling shot tho ile give him that he can speak English I've had cons with him in past
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What seller in Poland this is Dave?
Regards
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Pmed u fella
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Arek, did you get your Vulcan!!!, how does it shoot after Ville fiddled with it !!
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Sunday Jun 21 2015, 07:17 PM
Arek, did you get your Vulcan!!!, how does it shoot after Ville fiddled with it !!
PM-ed you mate...
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Snu do u look at altering shroud so the blow back bit worked pretty sure that's how it was made semi auto
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Yes mate, the back pressure moves the cocking arm slightly, all you need to do is drill a series of holes in the rear chamber which stops it from happening.
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Could it be made to work again tho if u was to seal air tight ????
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I don't see why not, you would need to fully strip it to remove the plunger inside the mod so you could make a new one.
You might need to play around with the front cocking spring as the manual spring would be too strong for a sub 12flb set up.
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Ile be having a look at it
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Jst waiting on delivery now gun and mtc connect should both land wensday ;)
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Have fun tomorrow mate ;)
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Dave let us know how you like your connect...
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I've had loads of connects zonk mate there great favour the AMD ret one the scb2 is a little clutterd but both great scopes ESP on bullpups
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Not yet only the scope :(
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Not really got used to it now things have moved lot faster than i thought it would of
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Yeah will win the picture competition from blades and bows or sure ;)
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Might not ;)
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Think I'm in love with colibri super slck action ect and so quiet for standerd
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Your going to have some fun with that little beauty..........so how many Colibri owners are there now !!!!
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About to be a lot more I reckon Clive ;)
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Question about cocking.

Do you just pull back the cocking leaver and let go or do you have to pull back then push forward ?
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On watching videos on YouTube it looks like you have to push it forward ?
I thought it would be spring loaded to move it forward but it looks like its a manual push to return it
Could be wrong though as I normally am lol
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If the pellet is a little tight you have to apply a slight force forward to ensure the rear cocking action is engaged, otherwise you get blow back.........this is on the older model, I believe the newer model does not suffer this as the cocking spring is not in the rear of the moderator.
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Cheers Snu :)

I`m still on the fence of weather I should order one or not . Good to know their have made a few changes .
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The original problem was that the air pressure in the rear section of the moderator was still trying to partly cock the gun when fired, the new Colibri's do not have the cocking spring and large semi round plastic unit that was originally use to make it a semi auto in the moderator, the cocking spring is now inboard and seems to have alleviated the index problem that I had on mine.

Give it a week and see if Dave is still smiling......if he is I'd buy one ;)
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Thats a good plan Snu ;)

Mikey has had an email saying kalibregun are missing some parts for colibri`s so wait time is 1-3 months estimate . Plenty of thinking time now lol
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I think that now they have reverted back to a fully manual system and ironed out the issues these little things will be flying out the door.
There was talk of them stopping production but I think the order books started to fill up so they changed their mind.
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Ok adolf after playing today u can do both although it's faster to pullback push forward but if I pull back and release works perfect still as Clive says the lw back is resolved but no chance of changing newer models to semiauto notabad thing tho tbh
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Glad I found this site and review, have had my eye on this gun since first seeing it back in 2014 but haven't managed to find out much more than the basics. What is the actual barrel length of the gun and how does it feel to handle when all scoped up. Also does any know the estimated shot count at sub 12 in 177?

Would it be possible you could PM those details Dave G, been searching for a few months now for a safe way to get one of these guns imported but a little worried of being messed about.



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Think you may of missed the boat on this one mate. I wanted one too but they've stopped production of this cracking little pup, maybe just for now or maybe not.
I've ordered a Vulcan instead.
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As above mate they've stopped production for the moment also only did it in .22 cal believe Cheshire gun rooms still have some in stock
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Oh I hadn't realised it was only in 22 for the moment, that's a shame. I'll have to give Cheshire a call as their site doesn't show anything. Do you know why they stopped production or if they plan to make more in the near future? I'd hate to imagine that I'll never get my hands on a 177 version of this gun.

Would consider a cricket but I hate the look of it.
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It's import export in and out of Russia I'm told kalibrgun moved to chech to combat this but the colibri internals are made in rusia I believe hopefully they start again as would be a real shame not to make them now all issues are sorted
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